JP Bouvet - Full-Length "In Person" Interview

You’ve probably seen the short version, but today I’m back with the complete “part deux” interview with JP Bouvet.

To catch you up, two weeks ago I invited JP to the studio for an “in person” podcast interview, in which I wanted to “compare notes” about our teaching philosophies. It seemed like a fun thing to do considering I’d avoided consuming his teaching directly for around a year, to avoid any doubt about whether the ideas I was putting into my videos and courses were “my own”. Now that a bunch of that stuff is already released, written, or in the can, I thought it would be fun to get together and hash out our approaches.

While the short version covered one aspect - our approaches to a similar method he calls “building blocks” - the full interview delves into a bunch of juicy subjects:

• Why we paradoxically need restrictions to feel more free

• Why “drum solos” are the wrong way to think about improvisation on the drums

• The one way in which JP never wants to have to move his body again

• “Weak hand” technique and generating volume

Know you’ll enjoy this one!

JP Bouvet Schools Me on Improvisation

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So I had JP Bouvet in the flesh at 8020 HQ this past week. And what a treat it was.

I’d deliberately avoided looking to specifically into the guy I consider maybe the foremost drum teacher…out there…

…because I had a bunch of my own stuff to shoot, and I didn’t want to worry I was being influenced. (i.e. if we had a parallel thought I didn’t want to wonder if I “stole” it.)

But given that it’s the end of the year and most of those things are in the can, I reached out to JP with an idea: come over to the studio, and let’s mic us up and just “hash out” where our ideas overlap.

The result was a nearly 90-minute interview, complete with playing, talking, and switching places at the drums, which I’ll release as a podcast next Monday.

But for the lesson of the week, I wanted to give you just a taste.

In this 15-minute clip, JP and I discuss his concept of “building blocks”, which overlaps somewhat with my idea of “the switching exercise”. As you’ll hear, our ideas had different origins, but we ended up in similar places. (He also guessed correctly with only about 10 minutes of thinking something that took me years of working stuff out with students to learn. See if you can see what I’m talking about.)

Hope you enjoy.

Is This The ONLY Drum Warmup You Need?

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This week’s video is the culmination of about six weeks of experimentation.

The impetus was the recent change I’ve made to my left hand technique. Upon locating a “feeling” for when it’s working well, I was then faced with a challenge: short-term memory being a cruel mistress.

Practice something until you feel quasi-mastery, put it aside until tomorrow, then when you pick it up again you’re “starting from zero”. Not to worry - long term memory will eventually take over, and you’ll be able to do it at 3am in the rain after being roused from a deep slumber. But that takes time, and it takes specific reps.

Which means I needed a way to find my way back to the “feeling of it working”. And arbitrary warmups out of a book weren’t going to cut it. Nope. I needed a new kind of warmup. One in which I let feeling be my guide.

So I set about experimenting to build one. I improvised until I had the feeling I was chasing “captured”, then remembered what I had done.

And what I did is what I’m now showing to you, in this video. The transcriptions will help, but they’re only the tip of the iceberg. I recommend you watch the whole video for the underlying concepts.

And see if you agree. In my humble opinion, for the right player, in the right circumstances, this blows away what I was doing for “warmups” previously.

Hope you enjoy.

Camellia "Cami" Kies - Your "Limitations" Are Fake

I’ve never before struggled so much to come up with an episode title.

But today’s guest, Camellia Kies, aka Cami Loops if you follow the socials, has a quality that’s immediately obvious upon speaking to her and hearing her story, that’s simultaneously really hard to put into a short-catchy slogan.

Here’s what I mean - she was the child of a military family, who herself played drums and percussion in the military, after feeling frustrated that doors were somewhat “closed” to her playing drums in her church. Through a combination of innate tenacity and discipline she learned through the military and the military music schools, she built a practice regimen that’s an impressive combination of “hard”, “smart”, and “patient”, whereupon she aimed right at the most daunting seeming challenges - whether that was learning jazz more-or-less from scratch when she already had a touring gig in just weeks, or mastering left foot independence ala Antonio Sanchez or Horacio Hernandez - broke that down into exquisite detail, took it piece-by-piece, mastered it, then used the meta-lessons to surmount the subsequent challenge in less time.

But that doesn’t fit in a YouTube title. So I had to resort so something that sounds like a slogan you’d see on the wall outside HR.

Cami first caught my attention with her youtube tutorials at the pad or snare drum. She explains that after leaving the service, while living in Texas, she didn’t have regular access to a kit. But it was these ebullient mini-lessons that fueled her eventual stardom on social media - doubtless because she’s a fun and energetic presenter, but also possibly because they were so different from anything else out there.

In addition to her social media, Cami is active in creating music from her many influences, from afrobeat, to jazz and latin jazz, to (recently) gospel.

In this interview we chat a lot about the nitty-gritty of practice, and this “extra gear” she seems to have to conquer challenges, but also about her life arc and influences.

Know you’ll enjoy this one!